Tuesday, January 15, 2019

SJWs: Women's self defense is problematic!

Yes friends, it is true. SJWs have decided being a strong, independent whamyn of colour is problematic. See, SJW Zack Ford thinks you ladies should just let yourself get robbed.

No, not kidding. Boi really went there. Then deleted the tweet, because telling the truth like that is very embarrassing to an SJW.

The original tweet, transcribed:

"The punishment for armed robbery is not death, though. Of course I don't think he should have had a gun either, but if she had let him rob her, even at gunpoint, both likely would have survived. It's the praise for her gun ownership that bothers me."

There was also this piece of genius here:

"Conservatives a thrilled a woman with a concealed-carry permit shot and killed a 19 year-old would-be mugger. That's not how justice works. The penalty for theft is not death, nor do we want it to be."

Both these tweets plus some more are deleted, of course. Now there's a much longer non-apology up. Zacky was not prepared for the number of people telling him to shove it up his ass.

The problem he's having is that he already said what he actually thinks. Which is that women (and everybody, really) should let themselves be robbed, raped, what have you, because those crimes don't rate the death penalty.

I watched the video of this attack at the first link. The attacker put her on the ground. She fired at him after he drew his weapon and after he physically shoved her down on the ground. She apparently didn't have much of a gun on her, because the attacker ran away after being shot, was arrested later blocks away, and survived all the way to the hospital. Died on the table during the very expensive taxpayer funded surgical effort to save his life. So probably a .22. If he'd decided to fight, that gun wouldn't have been enough unless she put a couple or three right into his brain.

My take, carry a bigger gun, ladies. You shoot have to somebody, it should HURT him.

Here's what Zacky Ford's newer, "more nuanced" take is:

My ideal is for a world in which guns do not have to be a part of anyone's daily life and in which gun deaths are not a part of our daily news. I stand by this ideal and disagree with the proposition that more guns will make people safer.

This in the face of video showing a woman saving her own life with a gun.

So just take that little datum right there, that the plain and obvious truth on a video tape won't move this asshole, and apply it to every other fucking thing on his Twitter feed. The man is perfect SJW.

I'm reminded of previous posts where SJWs say retarded things about self defense. Plus Aaron. Can't forget Aaron, he's a special kinda special.

The Phantom

23 comments:

Alyric said...

What a fantastic idea! I mean, you wouldn't want to let someone attack you if they were planning to murder you afterward, but fortunately, all women are telepathic so -

Hang on. Someone rushes in and leans over, whispering furiously, before rushing off again.

Ahem. Ah, apparently women aren't telepathic, and can't know how far their attackers plan to go.

What the fuck is wrong with this guy?

The Phantom said...

What's wrong with this guy? Almost everything, looking at his Twitter feed. He's a gender-non-conforming fat kid who writes for Slate, is all about the LGBTKGBFBICIA and doesn't know shit about shit.

Also does not understand the difference between a judicial punishment and a defense against an armed attacker. So, a general-issue SJW GenderStudies grad.

Foxfier said...

Part of it might be a failure to understand that our legal system is extremely merciful and cautious of making a mistake; that's why even premeditated, attempted murder where we are in twilight zone plotlines for it to NOT be the guy charged doesn't have the death penalty.

In real life, a reasonable expectation of serious harm is fairly punishable by death, especially when it's a situation someone couldn't reasonably expect the threat to be stopped otherwise.

An newsflash, pretty much any guy, even unarmed, is a reasonable deadly threat to a woman. (So are most women-- heck, a house cat can kill you, it's amazing how humans are both incredibly delicate and insanely tough at the same time.)

Zsuzsa said...

Whenever I run across one of these "We don't have the death penalty for X," for whatever crime of X Leftists are whining about this week, I always want to respond, "Yeah, well, we don't have the death penalty for driving without a seatbelt either, but sometimes when you go flying through the windshield, you end up dead anyway. Similarly, when you attack* someone, they might fight back, and if they fight effectively, you might end up dead. If you don't want that to happen, try not going around mugging people."

* = I'm not limiting it to armed attacks here, because unarmed people can do plenty of damage, especially if we're talking a larger man against a smaller woman. If you attack someone, that someone is not limited by the rules of chivalry to use only the same level of violence you do.

Robin Munn said...

Foxfier -

"... a house cat can kill you ..."

Especially if you're a level 0 peasant in a D&D campaign. *grin*

The Phantom said...

Zsuzsa said: "...when you go flying through the windshield, you end up dead anyway."

Yes. Stupidity remains a capital offense. It does pain me though that the argument is inevitably framed in this legalistic way.

Zacky Ford literally can't get his head around the idea of an issue where government can't help you. For him its always the Big Picture, where the loss of one woman at a bus shelter is "worth it" if it makes his political opponents look bad. Or even denies them a win, however small.

That's the odious thing we are all reacting to, this application of officious legalistic balderdash and politicking to a life-or-death emergency. But this is exactly what they always do. Some random scrub has to die for their values, they are okay with that.

The Phantom said...

Foxfier said: "An newsflash, pretty much any guy, even unarmed, is a reasonable deadly threat to a woman."

Absolutely.

But let's take the deadly threat out for one second. Let's say he only knocks some of her teeth out. No big deal, right? Zack Ford says she survived, its all good.

Except losing teeth in a violent attack is a life-changing event. People have that happen to them, and often they never get over it.

I met a lady a long time ago who had her face slashed by a nut with a can opener when she was a cute and beautiful little teenager. She spent the rest of her life hiding her scars under bulky clothing and large hats. Never married.No kids.

In Zack Ford's mental universe, that was a win.

That's why Zack Ford's fucking twitter feed is melting down. He's an -asshole-.

Foxfier said...

At the very least, he's dehumanized the victims.

*lightbulb*

THAT is why our speech is violence, and their violence is speech-- dehumanization. They KNOW that it hurts when we say something, but they can wave away harm done to others.

The Phantom said...

This is an ongoing issue for me, trying to understand why a guy like Mr. Zacky Ford there would even say half the shit he says.

When I see a problem, like women getting mugged, I look for a -solution-. Carrying a gun is not a great solution, for a lot of reasons. But, and this is where I lose track of the Lefties, it is the best available solution right now. Is it optimal and a good thing that muggers get shot? No. Is it the best we can get under the circumstances? Yes.

So our Lefty doesn't actually care about women getting mugged. If he did, he'd be advocating gun ownership. Because objectively it is the best real-world option women have.

Lefty Zacky boy is solving a different problem. His problem is those damn Conservatives get a propaganda boost every time a woman wins a passage-at-arms with a mugger.

That's the part where my brain kind of hiccups. Lefties are motivated primarily by hate. He HATES Conservatives. To him is really is literally better the woman should die than prove Conservatives right.

You can't argue or reason with hate. You have to fight it and defeat it. So while its a good thing that Zack baby got a huge smackdown on Twitter, it didn't change anything. He's hating all the harder, if anything.

Imaginos1892 said...

"In a Perfect World you wouldn't need a gun to defend yourself from criminal attack; therefore, denying you the right to own a gun will make the world Perfect."

That's what passes for logic in Zacky-boi's head.

It's what passes for logic with a lot of 'Progressives'. If something about the real world doesn't jibe with their fantasy of a Perfect World, eliminate it. Don't bother thinking about the likely consequences of doing so; that's too hard.
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The Democrats trust violent criminals and terrorists with guns more than they trust you.

The Phantom said...

Salutations Imaginos. To a DemocRat, violent criminals represent an opportunity. Armed citizens fighting back represents a problem.

Calisse Tabarnac said...

I'm sure that Nicole Brown Simpson was quite happy to submit to her husband's attack so she could see "how justice works".

Anonymous said...

"The penalty for theft is not death..." Well, FWIW, Zack, seems to me that for most of human history it's been just that. Stealing a man's horse or livestock, for starters, in many times and places, could take away a man's livelihood and cause great hardship for him and his family. Thus theft was considered a very serious crime meriting extremely prejudicial penalties.

Dan said...

Zack Ford needs to be mugged at gunpoint on a weekly basis for a couple of years.
He'll either grow a brain and figure reality out or eventually be removed from
the gene pool. Either is an acceptable outcome.

Anonymous said...

If she sets up a go-fund-me for a .45, LMK

SDN said...

If something about the real world doesn't jibe with their fantasy of a Perfect World, eliminate it."

Hmmm. My version of a Perfect World is one with no Leftists in it... since they won't leave me alone otherwise.

Fûz said...

"The punishment for armed robbery . . . penalty . . "

Let's make one thing clear. She was not punishing him. That was not her goal, and it is not in her power.

Her only aim was to make him stop his attack. In which she succeeded.

Anyone prepared to meet such violence with her own is not seeking to punish an attacker, but merely to cease the attack.

Any SJW prattle about Teh Death Penalty is a red herring, and must be challenged.

Anonymous said...

So armed robbery and assault isn’t a death penalty of fence but walking down the street just might be? Insane world view that person has.

How about death penalty for assault. Then everything works out.

Anonymous said...

Guarenteed: This clown has never had the shit kicked out of him in a back alley.

The feel of a boot cracking a couple of ribs while that broken nose makes breathing hard would change that attitude.

We have too many coddled snowflakes that have an outsized influence on culture. The 19th Amendment exacerbates the problem.

The Phantom said...

Greetings sudden surge of new visitors to an old post. Who linked me? ~:D

One of the things that is very evident about the Left these days is that A) they have literally -no- idea how things work in Real Life and B) they really don't care.

Zacky Ford does not care about the argument being made for or against self defense. It doesn't impinge on his reality, he lives in a cloister. A nice protected and comfy bubble where nothing bad ever happens, and where everyone agrees with him.

What's fun here is that Zacky and friends are working hard to create a society in which their safety bubble is going to pop. Example, applications for CCW permits in San Francisco are at an all-time high right now.

https://reason.com/2023/01/18/san-francisco-sits-on-carry-permit-applications-as-legislators-consider-new-gun-restrictions/

Predictably the city is not issuing said permits in a reasonable manner, because of all the pearl-clutching from the Zacky Fords of the world, of whom there is a very high concentration in 'Frisco.

The longer that goes on, the more bleeding-heart Lefties (and everyone else) will get mugged/raped/maimed/killed by the shambling goblin hordes.

While I certainly do not view that as a -good- thing, it is very definitely a Thing.

Hassayamper said...

I'd bet my next mortgage payment that this guy was happy that Ashley Babbitt was shot dead by Nancy Pelosi's armed thug during the Jan. 6th Capitol demonstration.

In fact, I'd bet that he would be quite satisfied if everyone who was on the Capital Grounds that day had been machine-gunned from a helicopter.

Gavriel said...

Foxfier said...
-- heck, a house cat can kill you

Sarah A. Hoyt's cat Greebo:
https://accordingtohoyt.com/2020/07/20/theyre-serving-tuna-in-valhalla-tonight/

m said...

She didn't shoot him for robbery.
She shot him because, not being able to read minds, she was in reasonable fear of serious bodily injury due to his use of a lethal weapon.

As my father told me a long time ago, avoid fights because you'll never know how far the other person is willing to take it. If you have to fight, fight like your life is at stake.