Saturday, November 11, 2017

More SJW wankery.

It seems that a certain camel flop has been playing stupid games with deleting most comments from me, and them making entire posts from them. Because he saves them from his spam filter, then releases them out of context to bolster whatever retardation he is pursuing that day.

So today, there's a big long lot of his blather here.

In his comments, one person asked me a direct question. For the record, as it were, here's the question and my answer in context.
(Camestros, if Phantom responds to my question, I'd appreciate it if you'd let him out of the spam filter. But I have a sneaking suspicion he won't.)
So, Phantom, now that we're talking about all the lefty offenders like you wanted us to, I have a question for you. What about the Roy Moore blowup? What do you think about all the Republicans, and the people on Fox News (Sean Hannity et al.) that are rallying around him?
Bonnie McDaniel

My response:

"What about the Roy Moore blowup?"

I have a question about Roy Moore, and the allegations. The question is, why are we hearing these allegations -now- at the end of an election campaign, when it looks like Roy Moore might win? The timing seems very convenient, is all I'm saying. Reminiscent of Clarence Thomas. Allegations of actual wrongdoing don't usually follow a convenient timeline like that.

Beyond that, I have no issue with the allegations. Go get him. If he's bent, I'm thrilled to see him fall. That's the difference between a Conservative and a Liberal, Bonnie. We don't cover for perverts.

The number of perverts in the American Media Left is staggering, and y'all Wimmin of the Left have been COVERING for them all this time. To help The Cause I guess. You should probably stop.

As you may know from my blog, my opinion of assaults is that they are best dealt with by the intended victim at the time of the assault. I have organized my life around that principle. I see no reason why women should not or cannot do the same. That the SJW fruitbat wing of feminism considers this "victim blaming" is one more reason to despise SJWs. I assure you that any of the women I spend time with would leave the likes of Harvey W leaking on the carpet of his hotel room. Because they have the means, the training and the moral fortitude to do so.

This will be posted at my blog, Camestros. You can fuck around playing spam filter if you like.

It expands into the past from there, but that should do for now.

Here's another comment worth looking at:

Cora
Camestros is not obliged to blog about anything. And like Mark said, this case is pretty new. Other new cases include an editor at DC Comics, Andrew Kreisberg, producer of Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow, and a British actor named Ed Westwick, where rape allegations caused the BBC to stop production on what was supposed to be a prestige Agatha Christie adaptation for Christmas. Camestros did not mention those either, maybe because things are happening simply too quickly at the moment.
And besides, Camestros and many commenters explicity pointed out that sexual harrassment happens on all sides of the political spectrum and specifically mentioned a case involving a prominent Labour Party politician in the UK and an older case involving harrassment at an atheist conference.
I disagree. This avalanche of Lefty sexual misconduct is a dam that has finally burst after more that 50 years of silence. This is not an "everybody does it" situation. This is a "Lefties got a free pass for 50 years" situation. John F. Kennedy, Ted Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. were the earliest beneficiaries of the Code of Lefty Silence, Alfred Hitchcock was another oldie.

Fast forward to now, we've got the heavily SJW company DC Comics harboring an alleged perv, the heavily Leftist SJW movie company doing DC Comics properties is RUN by an alleged perv, the BBC is riddled with the bastards, and of course there's the Labour Party and the US DemocRat Party where perverts and molesters run the whole thing. See Bill Clinton for further elucidation.

Meanwhile, Camelbrain Flopatron is playing fuckaround with his spam filter. Probably because the truth hurts when you know you're guilty. Sucks to be you today, Floppy.

The Phantom

Camel update: Due to Mr. Floppy's assinine wankery with the comments, I will be posting things here.

Bonnie McDaniel responds!
Bonnie McDaniel
Oh, for fuck’s sake. Pardon the profanity, Camestros, but this is a sterling example of why Phantom needs to remain in the spam filter. However, I would like to post something here, and then I’ll leave it be. (Or, if you don’t want to publish this, that’s fine. I’m sure you’re getting tired of this jackass, too.)
Phantom, if you have any question about why the allegations are surfacing now, then you’re not paying attention. (Which we know we don’t, as you want to force everything into your own distorted little timeline, which has nothing to do with reality.) As I understand it, the reporters for the Washington Post, upon hearing the rumors in Alabama, sought out each of these women and interviewed them. Only after repeated interviews did they agree to go on the record and reveal their names. The original story also included 30 other corroborating sources, which are evidently needed nowadays in the face of people like you. As far as the timing, would you rather this be swept under the rug, and this pervert actually get elected to the Senate? (Which he very well might anyway. This is Alabama, after all.)
As far as the rest of your idiotic comment, I take GREAT issue with this statement. I’ve been pondering over this for a while, and I finally know just what is wrong with your entire attitude towards this.
“As you may know from my blog, my opinion of assaults is that they are best dealt with by the intended victim at the time of the assault. I have organized my life around that principle. I see no reason why women should not or cannot do the same.”
This is just straight-up bullshit. While I’m very happy that you, Mr. Macho Man of the Martial Arts, can take out anybody who tries to molest you (really! you go! and hope your opponent isn’t some Very Important Person who can get you arrested, and maybe even sent to jail, or ruined financially, by a crooked cop and/or a crooked district attorney!) NOT EVERYONE CAN OR SHOULD DO THIS. It is INFURIATING, and COMPLETELY out of bounds, for you to insist that just because YOU did it, everyone can. This is simply NOT TRUE, and you have NO BUSINESS trying to make everyone follow in your footsteps.
Instead, it’s far better to CHANGE THE CULTURE around sexual harassment. We have a sterling example of how to do this: MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Drivers). It is NO LONGER socially acceptable to drive while drunk. People are encouraged–nay, expected–to take intoxicated drivers’ keys away from them, and bar owners are sued up the wazoo–and lose those suits–when they continue to serve obviously drunk people. Designated drivers are part of the culture now. AS THEY SHOULD BE. Even when it comes to domestic violence, though we still have a long ways to go, at least husbands can no longer legally beat their wives, and it’s no longer acceptable to say, “It’s a family matter.” Because it bloody well ISN’T. It’s a SOCIETAL matter, which means you and me, all of us, are responsible for watching out for other people, and many professionals are required to report suspected physical or sexual abuse.
We can do the same thing as regards sexual harassment. Indeed, I hope what’s happening now is the beginning of this dam breaking. Let’s just suppose that the culture is changing and will change to the point where everyone, man or woman, is encouraged to promptly report all incidents; where such reports are taken seriously, believed and investigated; and perpetrators know that if they’re caught, their balls (or ovaries) will be nailed to the wall, their asses will be fired, and they will SUFFER CONSEQUENCES. THIS IS THE CULTURE WE NEED. This is the culture we DID NOT HAVE at the time that most of these incidents happened. And guess what, Phantom? In such a culture, it is not NECESSARY for anyone to have to learn martial arts (though if you still want to, go for it) or carry a gun all the damn time. It is not NECESSARY to have to deal with your molester yourself, and force yourself to do something you may not be physically or emotionally equipped to do, and possibly further traumatize yourself in the process, because justice will be done.
Sorry for the capslock and the length, folks. But I’ve been wanting to get this out in the open for a while, because Phantom is completely, utterly WRONG about this. Thanks for indulging me.
Looks like I pissed her off. Good. Now she's thinking for a change.

First, the Roy Moore thing. This is a politically motivated DemocRat media fishing expedition. Even assuming Moore is completely guilty, nobody is fool enough to think any of this is being done -now- to protect the original victims or get justice for them. This is all about denying Moore an election. It is dirty politics, and it stinks of fish.

Aside from that, if Moore did something bad to those women, I'm very happy to see him go down for it, and I said that before. If he goes down from a dirty, politically motivated hit job, and he's guilty, I'm still good with it.

My question is, what does Bonnie want to do with the false accusers if it turns out this whole thing is bullshit and it costs Moore the election? Wild guess, a hearty "Well done!" and a pat on the back.

Second, the culture thing. This seems to have made poor old Bonnie really lose her shit.

Bonnie said: "It is INFURIATING, and COMPLETELY out of bounds, for you to insist that just because YOU did it, everyone can. This is simply NOT TRUE, and you have NO BUSINESS trying to make everyone follow in your footsteps."

 I'm not trying to make anybody do anything. I'm doing things for myself. Rather, Bonnie, I do believe it is -you- who are trying to make people do things. But let's talk about changing cultures a moment, shall we?

"Instead, it’s far better to CHANGE THE CULTURE around sexual harassment."

There is no situation and no place in Western Civilization where it is legally or morally permissible to sexually harass a female, a co-worker, or a child. Just the accusation is a career-ending event for most. That is the current cultural environment that these molestations are occurring in, Bonnie. They're still doing it.

"It is NO LONGER socially acceptable to drive while drunk."

Good example. Thirty year long advertising campaign, huge social stigma, massive government penalties, extensive enforcement campaign. People still dive drunk. Drunk drivers kill people every fucking week. I used to see their victims in PT clinic all the time. I told them to drive a bigger car, or next time they might die.

That's "victim blaming." Bad Phantom!

But Bonnie, why did I tell them to get a bigger car? Because everybody I met who had been hit in a small car was smashed to shit, while the ones driving big cars had fewer, less serious injuries. I know of one case where a person was hit by three different idiots in three different rear-end collisions. Each time in a massive 1970s Cadillac. Because after every accident where some schmuck rear-ended my patient, the patient's dad would buy them another huge old Cadillac. Total damage after three high-speed collisions? Minor neck strain.

Victim blaming works.

"And guess what, Phantom? In such a culture, it is not NECESSARY for anyone to have to learn martial arts (though if you still want to, go for it) or carry a gun all the damn time. It is not NECESSARY to have to deal with your molester yourself, and force yourself to do something you may not be physically or emotionally equipped to do, and possibly further traumatize yourself in the process, because justice will be done."

Wow. Big finish. If only we can get the right laws passed, then the police will be there and everything will be okay. Because MADD ended drunk driving. So Mothers Against Sexual Harassment will be able to end that too. MASH for the win!

Personally, I drive the biggest thing they make because I know damn well that I see drunks on the road all the time. I see them in the country, I see them in the city. I see them on side-roads and on the super highway. I arrange my vehicle and my driving style to minimize my risks of being killed by one of them, because they are out there.

When I was young, being a homosexual was illegal. Soliciting young men in public was guaranteed jail time. I got solicited all over the place. I was very clear that nobody was going to come and help me. Nobody else was there, for one thing. People don't do this shit in front of witnesses. It's illegal, right?

Therefore I arrange my wardrobe, accoutrements, and the places I visit to minimize my risk. This is inconvenient and annoying, but much better than being set-upon, beaten, robbed and possibly killed. These things do happen to old fat guys like me. All the time. Even in Canada. Shit happens.

But, so far anyway, it does not happen to me. Because I make damn sure not to be where the shit is going down. That's what you actually learn in Martial Arts, Bonnie. Violence is almost always useless. Weapons are almost always dead weight. You learn to plan for the worst, and avoid it.

Don't wear slippery leather shoes.
Don't catch the attention of cops.
Don't go after powerful, important men.
Don't strike at the wrong time. Wait for the right time.

The problem, as I see it, is that Bonnie wants somebody else to take care of this for her. She doesn't want to live in a world where she has to look after herself.

Sorry to break it to you Bonnie, but you are the one that is going to take care of you. Sadly, it is necessary for you to deal with your molester, yourself, right then. Just the same as I have to deal with every drunk asshole on the QEW at night on the drive home. Sucks, but that's the way it is.

So, if you don't want to provide for your own defense and protection from abusers, predators, criminals and regular sleazy assholes, you will continue being a victim of them. Because while it is not your fault that these people try to victimize you, it IS your problem. Meaning, Bonnie, the problem is yours and it is you that has to solve it. No one else is going to. It is not a societal problem, it is a personal problem.

As I said at the Flopatronian bog, which he probably deleted, you can't change society and you can't change other people. You can only change yourself. I changed myself from a naive 17 year old into somebody that is not a target for predators. Your solution will be unique to you, and hopefully as effective as mine.

You don't have to be like me. But you do have to take responsibility for your own actions and your own security.

UPPERDATE: Bonnie speaks!

  Bonnie McDaniel
@Aaron
“Does it bother you {Phantom} to be so wrong about everything?”
No, apparently not. He left another long-winded, idiotic response to my comment on his blog, ranting about the conservative nirvana of “personal responsibility.” He believes that if laws don’t get rid of every instance of bad behavior, there’s no use having them at all. In other words, he wants to live in an anarchy, not a civilization. I didn’t bother to reply (going back to my theme of not casting my pearls before swine).
Oh well. I take considerable solace in the fact that he lives in Canada and is therefore stuck with Justin Trudeau.
This comment of Bonnie's is in answer to a different poster than me, and thus slightly out of context. But, they don't seem to mind taking me out of context, so I'll return the favor.

The thing for me is that out of all that big long post above where I explained it all, this is what she got: "He believes that if laws don’t get rid of every instance of bad behavior, there’s no use having them at all."
That is an interesting take-home out of what I said. "After thirty year of MADD campaigns, there's still drunks, so maybe you should be careful out there," became "There are still drunks so MADD failed and its all pointless and they should repeal it all."

On the bright side, she seems to have abandoned the victim blaming horseshit. Or maybe she just got tire. Hard to say. 

2 comments:

SDN said...

Phantom, the more someone has a chance to do actual investigation, the flimsier Moore's accusers look. At least one is a Democrat operative.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/_one_of_roy_moores_accusers_wo.html

More to the point, I lived in AL for 34 years; graduated HS in 1979. If there had been any skeletons like this around, I promise you one of Moore's opponents would have used it to topple him.

The Phantom said...

Hi SDN,

That's the thing here which is disturbing. This Moore guy, and Trump, and all the other Republican/Conservative political types out there, they're under the microscope all day, every day. If one of them takes a wide stance in the toilet at a truckstop, that is front page news the next morning.

That is called the media doing their job. They are supposed to report on these assholes.

But we know they only ever report on Republicans. They do not report on Democrats unless the guy is caught lying in the street with his dick in his hand. They do not report on media guys even after they get caught like that. NY Times passed on the Weinstein story twice.

So, if Roy Moore is dirty, they should take him the hell down. But if Roy Moore is -not- dirty, they should go after his false accusers. And we know they won't.